we were talking about at the end of the day s the government coming in and telling private companies how to run their property? >> no. >> no? >> what we're talking about is a very viable and vital partnership between the public and private sectors where there's realtime information sharing and where there's the employment of best practices and the best technologies available. so, um, i don't view this as government coming in and telling you what to do. far from it. what we're saying is, look, if you are the owner and operator, core critical infrastructure on which other businesses depend and families depend and commitments depend -- communities depend, we need to make sure your cyber networks are as secure as possible and that should you be detecting signs of malware or intrusion and the like, there's realtime information sharing so we can help mitigate the threat. >> don't they know that now? i mean, it seems like there's a general awareness of the threat. these companies surely know that they are under attack, if there's information's being stolen. they know you're very concerned a